Okay, so I finally actually made an account on MangaFox. Just so that I could kinda yell about some stuff that was pissing me off.
Actually, no, I wasn't really yelling. More like discussing at length.
Karin ending spoilers ahead
(for a little context, Karin (Chibi Vampire in the US) is a manga about a vampire girl, Karin, and it ends with her basically becoming a normal human and living with her human boyfriend. Her family erases all of her memories of being a vampire and, of course, of them (her family).)
My opinion, as posted:
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ other user ] View Post
Even though she said, "I can't choose!", she did.
She chose Kenta, not her family.
Therefore, she ends up with Kenta but she can never see her family again.
(end quote)
See, that's exactly why I dislike the ending so much. It's essentially saying that Karin's romantic love for Kenta is more important than her familial love for her family. I mean, the mangaka presents this as a happy ending - a little bittersweet, but ultimately happily ever after. Karin is made to forget the family she has grown up with, who have shown again and again throughout the manga how much they care about her, and will never see them again; this should be a tragedy, not a small bump on the road to her and Kenta's happy married life. But after some (well-deserved) tears on Kenta's part, we're all expected to accept the regrettable but unavoidable means to attaining a good life for Karin. Yes, she has given up her family, but she has everything she needs: the love of her boyfriend, with whom she can build a perfectly blissful life.
Which is simply not true; despite our culture's** insistence that your romantic partner is the most important person in your life and to find true love is to find true happiness, a boyfriend, or even husband, cannot replace family.
So I guess what I'm saying is that her memory being wiped doesn't bother me as much as the fact that the ending is ultimately presented as happy even though this has happened.
Besides, to go back to that quote, Karin doesn't choose Kenta over her family, her family does. Not only is her love for Kenta paramount, but she doesn't even get to decide that it is. It's such a given that her family decides on their own that the memory wipe is "for her own good."
Plus, it just seemed somewhat unnecessary to me; is the fact that she has family who are vampires really that traumatic for Karin? What exactly is she gaining by forgetting about them? Ok, so she doesn't have to try to juggle her nocturnal family with her human life. Great. But...somehow, I'm not seeing how this memory wipe is inevitable for to have a happy life. I know it's supposed to be, but I'm just not seeing it.
Some people have mentioned that it would've felt odd for the manga to end on an entirely happy note. Now, normally I'd agree - I tend to be a big fan of stories that go for the fittingly bittersweet, or even straight up sad, ending over the artificially perfect one. But if Karin's mangaka had wanted to make the ending a bit more realistic rather than happy, she could have not made Karin magically turn human through the power of the kiss with Kenta. Aside from being cheesy, that didn't really make sense. Coming up with a less deus-ex-machina way of dealing with Karin's puchuke status would have been, in my opinion, a better way of achieving this not-100-percent-happy ending people are talking about.
**To be fair, I'm American, and I'm not sure how this sort of thing goes in Japanese popular culture. I think that family is more emphasized there (isn't there a tradition of wives caring for their mother-in-law's?), but since I am not familiar enough with the culture I don't think I can really accurately bring all of it into my reading of the manga...
But at any rate, I think a lot of the people here on this forum reacting to the ending aren't Japanese and have had similar cultural experiences to me, so this still stands as a reasonably viable response to people who feel the ending is justifiably happy...
Oh crap, that turned out waa-ay longer than I meant it to. Uh.
Actually, no, I wasn't really yelling. More like discussing at length.
Karin ending spoilers ahead
(for a little context, Karin (Chibi Vampire in the US) is a manga about a vampire girl, Karin, and it ends with her basically becoming a normal human and living with her human boyfriend. Her family erases all of her memories of being a vampire and, of course, of them (her family).)
My opinion, as posted:
Quote:
Originally Posted by [ other user ] View Post
Even though she said, "I can't choose!", she did.
She chose Kenta, not her family.
Therefore, she ends up with Kenta but she can never see her family again.
(end quote)
See, that's exactly why I dislike the ending so much. It's essentially saying that Karin's romantic love for Kenta is more important than her familial love for her family. I mean, the mangaka presents this as a happy ending - a little bittersweet, but ultimately happily ever after. Karin is made to forget the family she has grown up with, who have shown again and again throughout the manga how much they care about her, and will never see them again; this should be a tragedy, not a small bump on the road to her and Kenta's happy married life. But after some (well-deserved) tears on Kenta's part, we're all expected to accept the regrettable but unavoidable means to attaining a good life for Karin. Yes, she has given up her family, but she has everything she needs: the love of her boyfriend, with whom she can build a perfectly blissful life.
Which is simply not true; despite our culture's** insistence that your romantic partner is the most important person in your life and to find true love is to find true happiness, a boyfriend, or even husband, cannot replace family.
So I guess what I'm saying is that her memory being wiped doesn't bother me as much as the fact that the ending is ultimately presented as happy even though this has happened.
Besides, to go back to that quote, Karin doesn't choose Kenta over her family, her family does. Not only is her love for Kenta paramount, but she doesn't even get to decide that it is. It's such a given that her family decides on their own that the memory wipe is "for her own good."
Plus, it just seemed somewhat unnecessary to me; is the fact that she has family who are vampires really that traumatic for Karin? What exactly is she gaining by forgetting about them? Ok, so she doesn't have to try to juggle her nocturnal family with her human life. Great. But...somehow, I'm not seeing how this memory wipe is inevitable for to have a happy life. I know it's supposed to be, but I'm just not seeing it.
Some people have mentioned that it would've felt odd for the manga to end on an entirely happy note. Now, normally I'd agree - I tend to be a big fan of stories that go for the fittingly bittersweet, or even straight up sad, ending over the artificially perfect one. But if Karin's mangaka had wanted to make the ending a bit more realistic rather than happy, she could have not made Karin magically turn human through the power of the kiss with Kenta. Aside from being cheesy, that didn't really make sense. Coming up with a less deus-ex-machina way of dealing with Karin's puchuke status would have been, in my opinion, a better way of achieving this not-100-percent-happy ending people are talking about.
**To be fair, I'm American, and I'm not sure how this sort of thing goes in Japanese popular culture. I think that family is more emphasized there (isn't there a tradition of wives caring for their mother-in-law's?), but since I am not familiar enough with the culture I don't think I can really accurately bring all of it into my reading of the manga...
But at any rate, I think a lot of the people here on this forum reacting to the ending aren't Japanese and have had similar cultural experiences to me, so this still stands as a reasonably viable response to people who feel the ending is justifiably happy...
Oh crap, that turned out waa-ay longer than I meant it to. Uh.
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